At a recent meeting between a NYC County Leader and a member of the City Council’s Newly empowered Progressive Caucus, the caucus member warned the old school Party Boss that they are the strongest voting bloc in the City Council with 20 members. It was a sign of a shifting dynamic down at City Hall. Outgoing Speaker Christine Quinn solidified a reputation as someone who not only courted the County leaders to lock up the job, but also ruled the 51-member body with an iron fist. Many of the members, particularly the ones who call themselves progressives, are eager for a change. They want reform. Perhaps even a weakened Speaker.

But what was telling about this meeting was not only that the Caucus member felt emboldened to point out that they are playing a strong hand with 20 members, but also what the County leader said right back. “Yeah, if you’ve got 20, that means we’ve got 31.”

Watching this play out will be very interesting. Some in the Progressive Caucus feel as though their time has come. And the election of ally Bill De Blasio only strengthens their hand. But the party leadership is not going to cede power so quickly, at least not without a fight. County Leaders have been influencing leadership choices for years in this City, and it seems unlikely they are simply willing to roll over based on something silly like, you know, the will of the voters. Besides, as this confrontation exemplifies, it’s not clear that 20 members even constitute a mandate.

Sure, this was a “change” election, and voters seem to want to move policy in a more inclusive, liberal direction after 20 years of Republican and Independent Mayors. But is de Blasio going to get directly involved in helping to elect the Speaker of the City Council? There are many who believe that would be a big mistake. So far he hasn’t shown his hand, but many think his choice would be Councilwoman Melissa Mark-Viverito of East Harlem and The Bronx who got on the de Blasio train early when no one thought he would be the next Mayor. But so far, sources say they have had no discussion of her potential Speakership.

Everyone involved keeps saying it’s too early to decide who becomes Speaker. That may be true, but it’s definitely not too early to have these conversations. Especially to determine if the Progressive Caucus will be in the driver’s seat. Or if the old guard moves to keep at least one body of government all to themselves.